Sunday, October 28, 2007

Romani origins; myths, linguistic connections

There seems to have been a flurry of scholarship-research-speculations in the early 1800's about Gypsy origins - see for example all the countries and issues addressed in the 1848 "Zincali" by George Borrow, online at ://www.fullbooks.com/The-Zincali--An-Account-of-the-Gypsies-of1.html

Skim that, then move to the modern analyses - some at:

Hungary
- Oral tradition
in Hungary seems to have two ideas - a separation from the surrounding cultures, and a completely independent creation apart from them - see Center for Studies in Oral Tradition at ://oraltradition.org/bibliography/show/804.

Myths of the Czech Gypsies - see //findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb3342/is_200104/ai_n8057947

National Geographic places them in Rajahstan, India, in the 11th Century; then then to Egypt (the Gypsy name) and then Turkey, to Europe through Armenia, then Balkan area, and Greece. Was the Turkish killing of Armenians in the early 20th century focused on Gypsy Armenians, or not? Looking it up.

This site says they did not go to Egypt, and the Gypsies name was in error. See //www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/cultural/oldworld/europe/gypsy.html

See the groups post here for tracing migrations of separate groups.

1898: For a roots-type book on how thinking evolved in the west about the origins of Gypsies, here is an online book, "The Jew, the Gypsy and El Islam," by Sir Richard F. Burton (it says he translated the 1001 Nights, etc,). This source, old as it is, details understandings he researched at the time, for these particular groups.

Go to ://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDFs/The%20Jew,%20the%20Gypsy%20and%20El%20Islam%20JR.pdf

Scroll down to page 134 ff. Note the cultural prejudices and derogatoriness of this colonial era, but also the detail and (I think) keen interest in following linguistic and other clues. Also read the lengthy claims-counterclaims between the researchers.

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