Saturday, November 3, 2007

"Romney" as a Gypsy language, as is "Cant"

Roots of people are often in the words they use. Look up this book: "Scholarship and the Gypsy Struggle, Commitment in Romani Studies" edited by Thomas Acton; online at this very long URL, or do your own search for gypsies roma romney ://books.google.com/books?id=CGWFAQ9RZ0oC&pg=PA26&lpg=PA26&dq=gysies+roma+romney&source=web&ots=CMpJWIApnx&sig=E2KfOMzLmm12Te8b60EpQXijLx8#PPP1,M1
In one of the sections, The Genesis of Anglo-Romani, by Peter Bakker, is this section:
  • In 1753, a James Poulter distinguishes the language of the Gypsies, Romney, from Cant. "Gypsies are a people that talk Romney, that is a Cant that nobody understands but themselves."

It also means "thieves' jargon," see entry for 1787 Germany, at ://romani.humanities.manchester.ac.uk/files/13_briefhistory.shtml.

The term "Romney" appears in several contexts so far: as a synonym for "Romani," or "Rom'nie," and here as language identifier. The Romani Linguistics and Romani Language Projects, at ://romani.humanities.manchester.ac.uk/files/13_briefhistory.shtml gives a chronology of the search for language roots.

See supplemental post here, Other roots of "Romney".

Here is a site that discusses many different groups among gypsies, suggesting a broader variance in language because they dispersed, took on different roles, trades: The Gypsy Lore Society, at ://www.gypsyloresociety.org/cultureintro.html. This relates to the several groups of North American gypsies, noting that the Irish travelers and the Scottish travelers do not refer to themselves as gypsies. They had their own traditions, keep their distance. There was a substantial wave of immigration around the 1850's to North America, from many parts of Europe and the British Isles.

For more on the language, there is this book (online but only accessible through JSTOR), "The Cryptolectal Speech of the American Roads: Traveler Cant and American Angloromani" by
Ian Hancock, American Speech, Vol. 61, No. 3 (Autumn, 1986), pp. 206-220
doi:10.2307/454664.

Rom and Romni can mean Husband and Wife, see http://romani.humanities.manchester.ac.uk/files/11_names.shtml.

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